Talk: Small Problems

'''If you just want the XP but don't want to bother fetching the harness, it seems you can take the quest, give the nearby santon a bottle of strong alcohol and get the charm to give Mason right away.'''

'''If you just want the XP but don't want to bother fetching the harness, it seems you can take the quest, give the nearby santon a bottle of strong alcohol and get the charm to give Mason right away.'''

I noticed that I was allowed to put some random bottle of strong alcohol on the santon south of the village on my first run through the area. I came back later and tried a bottle of every strong drink I had in storage, all were acceptable. I did not find any foods, gifts or weak/medium alcohols that were allowed, yet I didn't try every possible inventory item. Putting a bottle of strong booze on the santon gets you the same clover in return that putting the cat harness does. I'm fairly sure it only works if you first have the quest active. ''Afterwards the ground around the santon has a couple empty bottles lying next to it.'' I think it works day or night. While the santon (presumably actually the griggs) will still accept more gifts of hard liquor, putting additional bottles on it before or after you complete the quest doesn't seem to give you anything back. After the quest was completed (taking Pat as my reward, of course!) the santon seemed to work the same way - they'll gladly take as much booze as I'll give them, but nothing more happened. [[Special:Contributions/68.34.2.193|68.34.2.193]] 08:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I noticed that I was allowed to put some random bottle of strong alcohol on the santon south of the village on my first run through the area. I came back later and tried a bottle of every strong drink I had in storage, all were acceptable. I did not find any foods, gifts or weak/medium alcohols that were allowed, yet I didn't try every possible inventory item. Putting a bottle of strong booze on the santon gets you the same clover in return that putting the cat harness does. I'm fairly sure it only works if you first have the quest active. ''Afterwards the ground around the santon has a couple empty bottles lying next to it.'' I think it works day or night. While the santon (presumably actually the griggs) will still accept more gifts of hard liquor, putting additional bottles on it before or after you complete the quest doesn't seem to give you anything back. After the quest was completed (taking Pat as my reward, of course!) the santon seemed to work the same way - they'll gladly take as much booze as I'll give them, but nothing more happened. [[Special:Contributions/68.34.2.193|68.34.2.193]] 08:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

:Very interesting :) ... had not noticed that at all, I'll add it [[User:Game widow|Game widow]] 11:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

:Very interesting :) ... had not noticed that at all, I'll add it [[User:Game widow|Game widow]] 11:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

:::For now, I'm trying to explore on my own and only reading ahead here to make sure I know how many sex cards to look out for, since the lead ups to those are usually hilarious. Finding stuff on your own in these games can be great fun, but this seems a bit large to discover each little tidbit by yourself. So when the concept of my witcher's very own personal Pat came up, I immediately wondered if you could get his Pat killed. After trying a few times on my own and having such poor luck, I thought maybe there was something here. Pat didn't follow me through the village, he stayed put, then magically appeared when I entered the fields, day or night (like Alvin but without the cutscene.) If I went back to the village, Pat was still with the mason. I had to work really hard to get him killed in the fields. He does attack foes but tries to stay behind my witcher, winding up standing back shooting while Geralt charges in. Getting monsters to even notice him took me ages. After many tries, I did manage to get a Devourer focused on him long enough to kill Pat, but I had to kite that witcher around like mad. Mason didn't say anything at all about Pat before or after I got him killed, either out at the bridge or in his hut. But Pat doesn't respawn.

:::For now, I'm trying to explore on my own and only reading ahead here to make sure I know how many sex cards to look out for, since the lead ups to those are usually hilarious. Finding stuff on your own in these games can be great fun, but this seems a bit large to discover each little tidbit by yourself. So when the concept of my witcher's very own personal Pat came up, I immediately wondered if you could get his Pat killed. After trying a few times on my own and having such poor luck, I thought maybe there was something here. Pat didn't follow me through the village, he stayed put, then magically appeared when I entered the fields, day or night (like Alvin but without the cutscene.) If I went back to the village, Pat was still with the mason. I had to work really hard to get him killed in the fields. He does attack foes but tries to stay behind my witcher, winding up standing back shooting while Geralt charges in. Getting monsters to even notice him took me ages. After many tries, I did manage to get a Devourer focused on him long enough to kill Pat, but I had to kite that witcher around like mad. Mason didn't say anything at all about Pat before or after I got him killed, either out at the bridge or in his hut. But Pat doesn't respawn.

:::Side note - In my tests to see if he'd respawn, I did find a way to be in the fields without Alvin either. Alvin follows Geralt from the fields to Lakeside, but if you go back through that gate into the fields, there's no Alvin! That seems more like a bug to me, as I expect fighting in the fields much without Alvin there now will glitch a primary quest.

:::Side note - In my tests to see if he'd respawn, I did find a way to be in the fields without Alvin either. Alvin follows Geralt from the fields to Lakeside, but if you go back through that gate into the fields, there's no Alvin! That seems more like a bug to me, as I expect fighting in the fields much without Alvin there now will glitch a primary quest.